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06/27/2022 12:31:27 PM · #1 |
Question: Do you process your challenge entry at full size and then before submitting resize it to 1200 to submit? Or, do you resize earlier in your processing steps and edit your photo at the smaller size?
I ask because I've done the latter for pretty much my entire time here at DPC. Why? Because my computers didn't have the processing power needed to edit/process a fullsize image without either being ridiculously slow or sometimes not able to handle it at all.
Recently this has come back to bite me as I've wanted to print some of my challenge entries at a larger size (8x10, 11x14) and have needed to "redo" the image processing to get a useable print.
End result is I now (since upgrading to a newer PC) process at fullsize more frequently.
Thoughts? What is your processing flow? Discussion could help others. Thanks! |
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06/27/2022 12:34:46 PM · #2 |
| I do them at full edit. Then downsize, which after looking at them on this massive screen, it is bitterly disappointing to see just how midget size 1500 actually is. And it is not so much the size I am complaining about, it is how on my smaller monitor how normal big sized they looked after going to 1500 lol |
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06/27/2022 01:12:31 PM · #3 |
Originally posted by JulietNN:
I do them at full edit. Then downsize, which after looking at them on this massive screen, it is bitterly disappointing to see just how midget size 1500 actually is. And it is not so much the size I am complaining about, it is how on my smaller monitor how normal big sized they looked after going to 1500 lol |
They'll look even worse once DPC resizes them to the challenge limit of 1200 ... :-(
I process "full-size" -- but that's still not very big on my old camera (but it's all my old computer can take) ... sometimes I'll stitch together a panorama which is too big for me to edit full-size, but then I reduce by 50%, 25% or 20% of the original size -- that means that any masks or whatever I create can later be scaled-up (200%, 400% or 500% respectively) so I can apply any editing to the big image later. |
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06/27/2022 03:12:07 PM · #4 |
| I edit at full size then rescale them for challenges or other online usage. I append the filename of the resized copy with 1200 to indicate the reduced size, or whatever the pixel dimension of the long edge is. |
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06/28/2022 12:51:26 AM · #5 |
I use PS and LR
I copy pics on disk, import in LR.
Edit in LR.
If special effects, clones, expert editing combining, from LR I choose edit in PS.
In PS all the edits at full size.
If i feel is worth saving I keep the PSD file (too large usually so only if its worth or was too much work on it to be redone).
All of the above at full size.
Once result is acceptable I usually export from LR (if PSD file is saved it will be shown on LR library automatically) where I choose dimensions (1200px), limit the file to 700kb.
If I save from PS I resize, then export -> save for web (legacy) and adjust the file size (Kb)
They are called sidecars (I think) in LR which means that the file is original and no modifications are done to the original. Only the exported one shows the edits.
I need (rarely) to print then I export diff. sizes that are suitable for print.
Cheers
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06/28/2022 04:30:35 AM · #6 |
I learned not to edit at web size a long time ago when I wanted to use one of my entries for something else at full size and was unable to replicate my edit.
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06/28/2022 12:23:01 PM · #7 |
| To be honest I would have never considered editing at anything but full size RAW image. I used LR since version 1.0 before Adobe bought it so the computer power needed evolved over time, LR 1.0 did not need that much. I used to use PS occasionally but since the recent upgrades of LR with great masking options I don't any more. But I am not very happy about 1200 pixels limit, it really degrades quality. |
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06/28/2022 02:25:07 PM · #8 |
| I've always edited at full size, and did as much processing in RAW conversion as reasonable. When I have needed to edit in Ps, I usually used 16-bit TIFF to edit in Ps, and only at the very end do I scale to DPC dimensions and convert to 8-bit. |
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06/28/2022 04:04:55 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by kirbic:
When I have needed to edit in Ps, I usually used 16-bit TIFF to edit in Ps, and only at the very end do I scale to DPC dimensions and convert to 8-bit. |
I leave it Photoshop format (rather than TIFF) while editing, as I think it affords more flexibility for non-destructive editing and is automatically compressed to save disk space. When all the editing is done I'll save a flattened version to TIFF (LZW compression is lossless), and then scale/crop and sharpen as necessary for the final use. |
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06/28/2022 05:49:28 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by kirbic:
When I have needed to edit in Ps, I usually used 16-bit TIFF to edit in Ps, and only at the very end do I scale to DPC dimensions and convert to 8-bit. |
I leave it Photoshop format (rather than TIFF) while editing, as I think it affords more flexibility for non-destructive editing and is automatically compressed to save disk space. When all the editing is done I'll save a flattened version to TIFF (LZW compression is lossless), and then scale/crop and sharpen as necessary for the final use. |
Hmmm, yes, I should clarify... I use TIFF as a go-between when jumping from Lr to Ps. When saving intermediate edits on Ps, I save in Ps format. |
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06/28/2022 06:04:04 PM · #11 |
I edit at full size (except for sharpening). I save one full-size edit and then resize, sharpen, and save that with appropriate letters in the file name to designate and order my life.
:D |
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06/29/2022 12:05:44 AM · #12 |
I forgot to add that LR does not alter the original so no need for multiple versions of the same image as in PS. It can also read and edit PS format so no need for TIFF.
Message edited by author 2022-06-29 00:07:21. |
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